Sidewalks along Children’s Pool to cost more than predicted

By Dave Schwab

Cost estimates for putting in new sidewalks as part of planned Coast Boulevard beautification at La Jolla’s Children’s Pool have risen dramatically.

That was the bad news La Jolla Parks and Beaches, Inc., a nonprofit committee making recommendations to the city on coastal parks, got at its April 23 meeting.

“A new estimate for replacing the sidewalks is now $383,534,” said committee member Phyllis Minick who’s been spearheading the project. Minick added, “The city has decided the sidewalk is not parkland, and therefore permits are required that will cost (an additional) $60,000.”

Substantial funding is still needed for the community-improvement project, estimated to cost $250,000-plus in its entirety. Minick promised to continue her extensive fundraising efforts with philanthropic organizations, including the San Diego Foundation, though she added that organization “does not give away money in the numbers we’re talking about here.”

Other Parks & Beaches action:

• Fireworks Update: City Park and Recreation Director Stacey LoMedico discussed revisions to the San Diego Municipal Code governing park permits following challenges by an environmental group to fireworks held over water in La Jolla and elsewhere.

LoMedico said the new rules set a numerical capacity for each individual city park. “Scripps Park’s capacity is 80, at La Jolla Cove it is 100,” she said. Event attendance must exceed those figures to trigger discretionary review by park advisory groups.

• Open Sluice Gates: The group agreed to draft a letter supporting member Melinda Merryweather’s suggestion that the sluice gates in the crescent wall at Children’s Pool be opened to allow a cleansing of the pool which has been fouled by seal waste.
“Open the sluiceways, let the water in, put the kids back on the beach and let’s be done with it,” Merryweather said.

• Ban Vendor Tables: The group voted to write a letter requesting the city ban all vendor tables and signs on the walkway above Children’s Pool that “interfere with pedestrian traffic flow, obstruct views and intrude upon the natural environment.”

• Film Fest Welcomed: A request brought by the San Diego Film Festival to hold a free event in Scripps Park on a September weekend date was endorsed. “This is our opportunity to welcome and introduce the film festival to La Jollans, giving them the opportunity to have a family friendly screening of something out in the park with roughly 300 guests bringing their own chairs and blankets,” said Dale Strack, festival spokesman. He noted the event, to be held partly in La Jolla for the first time, will be headlined by Hollywood director Gus Van Sant whose credits include “Good Will Hunting” and “Milk.”

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17 Comments for “Sidewalks along Children’s Pool to cost more than predicted”

  1. rhyne

    Amen Melinda Merryweather… opening the sluiceways and banning vendor tables sounds like a great idea and solution to the nonsense that happens at this, what could be, beautiful city beach.

    • James

      I believed the sluiceways were plugged in fear a kid might get stuck in them. Have we solved that issue or has enough time gone by that we've just forgot?

      • cyberKICK

        The sluiceways were plugged to build up more sand, the original plan was for them to be opened a few years later once enough sand was collected. It just never happened. The child getting stuck idea was speculated as a possible reason they were closed, because not alot of people knew about the sand. They weren't closed in a way that is hard to fix. A layer of cement not very think covers them like an icing.

      • David Pierce

        That was not true! the sluice gates have never been open while the beach and sea wall was opened to the public, they were only open during construction and closed to allow the beach to form. shortly after the opening to the public the city filled them in with concrete, this was the city's first mistake on managing the pool.
        I will contact Melinda who has the history and a letter and the retraction of the false statement that a child got stuck and drowned swimming through it.

      • Bob Ewing

        It never happened James. How about backing up this statement with facts. Cite some publication that can document that this ever happened. I will forget you ever wrote this lie.

  2. Bob Ewing

    The Children's Pool is so very peaceful when free of amplified speech. Let the ranger and life guards do their jobs. The activists are not happy with anyone being on the sand. Shared use to them is not a viable option. Eliminating all tables and limiting the level of vocal harassment will go a great distance to bring some sanity to this issue.

  3. cyberKICK

    It is in the park, it says so right here in the trust:

    "Beginning at the intersection of the ordinary high water mark of the Pacific Ocean with a line bearing S. 87° 40’W. from the monument marking the intersection of Coast Boulevard South with Jenner Street as said monument, said Coast Boulevard South, and said Jenner Street are designated and shown on that certain map entitled “Seaside subdivision number 1712” and filed June 23, 1920, in the office of the county recorder of San Diego County, State of California; thence N. 350’, thence E. 300’, thence S. 185’ more or less to the ordinary high water mark of the Pacific Ocean, thence in a general southwesterly direction along the ordinary high water mark of the Pacific Ocean to the point of beginning, all in the Pacific Ocean, State of California, to be forever held by said City of San Diego and its successors in trust for the uses and purposes and upon the express conditions…"

  4. Don Diego

    "The city has decided the sidewalk is not parkland", that's funny, the courts had determined that it was within the park lands of the trust.
    This project is being funded strictly by volunteers and donations, the city is NOT paying a dime! Although they are required by the trust agreement to maintain the trusted property.
    Is the city just money hungry? I bet it can be proven the city is wrong, it won't be the first time.

    • James

      The sidewalks aren't in disrepair around the CP (not cracked or crumbling, no roots pushing them up, etc) this group wants to change them. And I'm not against there plans or anything like that just pointing out the city hasn't let the SIDEWALKS fall apart.

    • NeedAttorneytoSueSD

      "Although they are required by the trust agreement to maintain the trusted property."

      Why should the city maintain the sidewalks? They have not maintained children's beach for years if not decades and they get away with it. Why is the city of San Diego not held accountable for not cleaning the beach and not maintaining the ramp down to the beach? The obvious answer is that the city is afraid of being sued by Bryan Pease, opportunistic lawyer who makes a handsome living collecting money from sympathetic passer-bys who buy into his lies and deceit about the so called plight of the seals. So the city GETS AWAY with not maintaining the beach and not maintaining the ramp to the beach. Why ISN'T THE ADA all over the city for not maintaining the ramp to children's pool for disabled people who cannot use the stairs? The lifeguards access to the beach is impeded so divers and swimmers cannot get help from a lifeguard if needed.

      Isn't there an attorney out there that can sue the city for not maintaining the ramp on behalf of the ADA, not maintaining access for the lifeguards on behalf of of some safety organization and not cleaning the beach on behalf of the the citizens of San Diego that pay tax dollars to have the beach cleaned just like every other beach.

      Where is my refund for you not cleaning the beach that I paid you the clean City of San Diego?

      • LJdiver

        Your right! They will sue local business who don't have handicap access(local surf shop) but turn their head at the children's pool.
        “A new estimate for replacing the sidewalks is now $383,534,” said committee member Phyllis Minick who’s been spearheading the project. Minick added, “The city has decided the sidewalk is not parkland, and therefore permits are required that will cost (an additional) $60,000.”
        Permits to the city at $60,000? Are you nutts? $383,534 for the concrete work? Ok, now subtract out the union cut and tell the city to pound sand for the permit fee …bam…Saved some money. Hey La Jolla, wish you were your own city yet?

  5. cyberKICK

    Some are quite damaged. The bluff has continued to erode and wall is keeping people off the wall is in terrible shape. The stairs to beach at both the Children's Pool and the beach just to the south are in need of repair. Yes, they want to make some changes and fix the place up. Been neglected for a very long time now.

  6. bigdipper

    So the City was offered free money to fix City property like the City should be doing on its own. But it wants to charge a big fee to be allow it to be done. And so it will get nothing. This is like the City charging money to allow you to fill potholes in front of your house.


    Opening the sluicways is not a panacea as Melinda Merryweather suggests. ..Please read the Article "Until Kingdom Come", the Design and Construction of La Jolla's Children' Pool by Jeremy Hollins ( Winner of the Tarasuck Award). in the Journal of San Diego History available at the La Jolla Historical Society and the WEB.
    The sluiceways were tested and closed before the opening ceremony on May 31 1931 and never re-opened because they did not work properly—the sand would wash away by a strong suction due to the hydrology of the location. (page 135). Therefore,there would be no beach at all….


    I am surprised that no one commented pro or con on my post in which I cited an article with facts and not hearsay….._If the sluiceways were open, there would be no beach for people or seals…and yet that is what some advocate…._

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