Opinion: Children’s Pool is about living up to a commitment

Chris Carter

La Jolla resident

I am a retired veterinarian. I am middle of the road politically . I have loved animals with a passion since I was 3; so much so, I made their care and wellbeing my profession. It is very hard to find someone that cares more about animals than I.

However after reading Inga’s “light-hearted”? column “Sealing the fate of the Children’s Pool,” I came to realize that she has it all wrong. In fact, her comments are simply reflective of so much of what is wrong with the country today.

Ellen Browning Scripps gave the money for the breakwater at the Children’s Pool and the city of San Diego accepted it. In consideration, the city agreed to keep the beach as a children’s pool. There is a bona fide indenture that, in our legal world, is about as clear as can be. There is also 80 years of legal precedent. …

The problem is that many of our left-wing citizens are not about to let the law, integrity or 80 years of history get in the way of their agenda. Whether or not there are 10 children or 100 children that use the Children’s Pool, the fact still remains that there is zero room for doubt that (it) was legally given and legally accepted to be a children’s pool. Nothing else is relevant. …

Americans don’t really understand that their prosperity and their national values are tied to living up to what they commit to, regardless of the political or social influence of any one group.

The end result in extrapolation is a world without trust in ourselves and our legal system. The absence of such trust would be unfortunate because it is one of the few things that separate us from the banana republics of the world.

That concept was driven home the other night at dinner with a friend who told me he would not bequeath anything to the city because the chances of the city living up to their agreements is diminutive.

The city of San Diego and our California Court system should be ashamed.

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10 Comments for “Opinion: Children’s Pool is about living up to a commitment”

  1. James

    You must realize that those same arguments that were used to justify continuing slavery right? "The slaves were legally bought" "There's hundreds of years of legal precedent" and "Nothing else is relevant…"

    The world changes. Are ideas of fairness change. Today you would never get permission to build that wall and at that time the idea of just shooting the seals was ok. So while the city did take up the wall in good faith, I find it completely unreasonable for people today to have the same responsibility to maintain the beach the way it was 80 years ago! Hell Would you really want to go back to living the way we did 80 years ago? Being known as an anti-Semitic community?

    I personally would like to see the beach closed for pupping season and open the rest of the year. It seems fairly reasonable to give the seals space to have there babies but as far as I know there is no scientific proof it bothers the seals to be "scared" into the water so to close if off year round would appear to be a bit of and over kill.

  2. Stop&look

    So are you saying that the trust that Ellen Scripps should just be ignored and the beach closed to the children that she meant it to be used by? Because if you give the beach over even for half the year that will just give them more of a foot hold to sue the city AGAIN and AGAIN to take it away fully. The city was entrusted with the responsibility to keep this amazing beach clean, safe, and OPEN for the children of San Diego. They have FAILED their responsibly. End of story. I for one am a saddened San Diego native and would never entrust anything to the city because as Chris' friend stated they can not be trusted to uphold their end of a bargain when pressured, even slightly, by ignorant, money hungry extremists.

  3. cyberKICK

    So what you are saying is that even if the city and state agree to something, they should not be held accountable to keeping such promises. The bottom line, is if you want to donate something, DO NOT DONATE IT TO THE CITY OR STATE.

    Just like if you buy a car with a warranty. After you but it, things can change and the warranty can be ignored.

    On top of that James, you make it sound like this is the only place to see seals, when In fact there are over 1200 known sites in california to see them. Plus canada, the east coast, and the entire northern hemisphere. The Harbor Seals AKA the Common Seal is not endangerd, threatened, depleated or even at risk of being depleated. They are at ecological capacity. This year, with all the "harassment" they had a record number of births. Why then close the beach at all?

    • npk32

      It's not complicated at all. James is saying that if the city and state agreed to something 80 years ago they should have the right to amend that agreement based on any changes that might have occured within those 80 years. I don't know if you've noticed but a lot of changes have occurred since 1931. Amending agreements or laws to reflect those changes isn't only logical, it's absolutely necessary.

      "On top of that James, you make it sound like this is the only place to see seals, when In fact there are over 1200 known sites in california to see them. Plus canada, the east coast, and the entire northern hemisphere."

      That logic makes sense. Let's apply it to the shared use argument. How many known sites are there in California where you can play frisbee? Teach children to swim? Dive? Fish? I'm willing to bet that those places outnumber the amount of places where you can see seals. That disparity becomes much more apparent when you apply it to Canada, the East Coast, and the entire Northern Hemisphere.

      "The Harbor Seals AKA the Common Seal is not endangerd, threatened, depleated or even at risk of being depleated. They are at ecological capacity."

      No one's saying that harbor seals, as a species, are endangered, threatened, or depleted. Why is that relevant? Just because the worldwide population of harbor seals is healthy means we shouldn't protect the community of seals that gather in La Jolla?

  4. James

    You're right just like your car if something changes the warranty can be ignored! I don't know what your dealership sold you but there are things that can void your warranty. In the case of the Children's Pool what's changed is our views on the environment. We would no longer allow something like thet wall to be built. I wonder what would happen if we put the Children's Pool to a city vote.

    I didn't realize I implied this was the only place that seals come to shore, if I did I apologize I know they use other beaches.

    And it is a completely unreasonable expectation to uphold the status quo forever! Things change and almost always for the better! Do you really want to live in the La Jolla of 80 years ago? They wouldn't even have let me live here along with a very large portion of the current population!

    I'm tired of hearing the same bogus arguments against the seals! I understand there are no studies done to know if shared use effects the seals one way or the other. While more pups were born that doesn't tell us if they are surviving to have pups of there own or not! (Maybe the reason they are having more is because more are dying) I know the number of seals on the beach has been counted but there is no official estimate of the seal population. If the "Pro-Beach Access" Groups are so sure it's not harming the seals why not put the donations collected towards funding studies to prove it?

    Oh and while I'm on the subject of donations collecting. If the Seal Watch people really brought in $300k last year I'm gonna go buy a fish bowl and sit my ass on the wall too!

    I like the ranger idea and I wish it had worked, it seemed like a great compromise but unfortunately there is no ranger anymore just a security guard incase there are more fights. I'd also like to see the wall maintained and the lifeguard tower rebuilt.

    More than anything I'd like to see the shenanigans from both the extreme sides to stop. As a native it's embarrassing! I use to swim at the Children's pool as a kid as well but as long as the seals are there I see no reason to use that beach.

  5. jess

    James said .."I find it completely unreasonable for people today to have the same responsibility to maintain the beach the way it was 80 years ago! "

    thats why seals are on the beach today because were not living in yesteryears.

    • James

      No we're not living in yesteryears! But the talk of sticking to something done 80 years ago is an attempt at living in the past!

      • Davy Jones

        No James, what you and everyone don't get is that this special beach was set into a trust for not just this generation or the last generation but for future generations, till kingdom come. And yes there maybe some children who may want to look at the seals and there are some children who want to swim. As long a one child or person wants to swim or use that beach, it will remain open for such purpose. Get use to sharing this beach…

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